<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!-- generator="wordpress/2.2.2" -->
<rss version="2.0" 
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/">
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Not Playing The Field (not more than once anyway)</title>
	<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/</link>
	<description>A Guy Called Fitzgerald</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 09:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2</generator>

	<item>
		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2321</link>
		<author>Ronan</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2321</guid>
		<description>well I did wonder that, so I listened again, and no, I still thought it was kinda crappy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well I did wonder that, so I listened again, and no, I still thought it was kinda crappy!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2299</link>
		<author>Jacob</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2299</guid>
		<description>"having heard and expressed an opinion on a record first is actually treated like something to be proud of! Maybe Iâ€™m guilty of this myself too, but it seems a little amusing."

...well, without wanting to sound like (too much) of an asshole, one might jump to the conclusion that this is exactly the reason you hated the album!

e.g.

"when I can see consensus forming about a record I just want to turn and run"

Although I reckon it has more to living in gloomy-ass dublin.  I was listening to the album in Bali at the weekend and it sounded great!

*One 'kids want techno' tshirt in Singapore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;having heard and expressed an opinion on a record first is actually treated like something to be proud of! Maybe Iâ€™m guilty of this myself too, but it seems a little amusing.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;well, without wanting to sound like (too much) of an asshole, one might jump to the conclusion that this is exactly the reason you hated the album!</p>
<p>e.g.</p>
<p>&#8220;when I can see consensus forming about a record I just want to turn and run&#8221;</p>
<p>Although I reckon it has more to living in gloomy-ass dublin.  I was listening to the album in Bali at the weekend and it sounded great!</p>
<p>*One &#8216;kids want techno&#8217; tshirt in Singapore</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2251</link>
		<author>Ronan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2251</guid>
		<description>No it is definitively bad. I checked with God, and Satan too! 

Just kidding, a lot of people like this record and think it's great. 

As regards RA, well, I know there are good people working for RA and they're working hard to ring in changes at the moment, it'd be great if the site itself matched the quality and ambition of the podcasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it is definitively bad. I checked with God, and Satan too! </p>
<p>Just kidding, a lot of people like this record and think it&#8217;s great. </p>
<p>As regards RA, well, I know there are good people working for RA and they&#8217;re working hard to ring in changes at the moment, it&#8217;d be great if the site itself matched the quality and ambition of the podcasts.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2250</link>
		<author>Ben</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2250</guid>
		<description>love or hate RA.com though, it's providing coverage on all techno, house or whatever your into. Not many places do it. It's all the stuff places like pitchfork have neglected over the years. They've only really started covering techno in the last year or so in any proper manner imo. and even then it's diluted to acceptable indie-ish acts.

I do agree with alot of things said about the field's album here. I don't like the way people have to wait until a groups LP is nicely packaged for them to listen to it. 

The Field is rather good though if you put aside all the crap surrounding it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>love or hate RA.com though, it&#8217;s providing coverage on all techno, house or whatever your into. Not many places do it. It&#8217;s all the stuff places like pitchfork have neglected over the years. They&#8217;ve only really started covering techno in the last year or so in any proper manner imo. and even then it&#8217;s diluted to acceptable indie-ish acts.</p>
<p>I do agree with alot of things said about the field&#8217;s album here. I don&#8217;t like the way people have to wait until a groups LP is nicely packaged for them to listen to it. </p>
<p>The Field is rather good though if you put aside all the crap surrounding it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jamie R</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2248</link>
		<author>Jamie R</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2248</guid>
		<description>I read Resident Advisor but i never take their reviews seriously, most of their writers are gobshites to be honest. I do like the Fields album tho, really feeling it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Resident Advisor but i never take their reviews seriously, most of their writers are gobshites to be honest. I do like the Fields album tho, really feeling it</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2247</link>
		<author>Ronan</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2247</guid>
		<description>speaking of boratto....really like his remix for delon and dalcan's latest release on confused...

will check that goldmann

as regards Resident Advisor...I don't really know anyone who reads it, even though the podcast is popular, but maybe I don't know enough people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of boratto&#8230;.really like his remix for delon and dalcan&#8217;s latest release on confused&#8230;</p>
<p>will check that goldmann</p>
<p>as regards Resident Advisor&#8230;I don&#8217;t really know anyone who reads it, even though the podcast is popular, but maybe I don&#8217;t know enough people!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: martin</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2235</link>
		<author>martin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2235</guid>
		<description>i totally agree on the album thing. can't remember when i last bought an actual album. donk boy thomas downloaded boratto and i found it boring after his singles. fluttering electronica bits, i dunno, and that coming from me, haha...

on another note i wanna tip you all about the stefan goldmann macro remix on freerange. more info here:
http://www.discogs.com/release/891663
nice one!

off to donk!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally agree on the album thing. can&#8217;t remember when i last bought an actual album. donk boy thomas downloaded boratto and i found it boring after his singles. fluttering electronica bits, i dunno, and that coming from me, haha&#8230;</p>
<p>on another note i wanna tip you all about the stefan goldmann macro remix on freerange. more info here:<br />
<a href="http://www.discogs.com/release/891663" rel="nofollow">http://www.discogs.com/release/891663</a><br />
nice one!</p>
<p>off to donk!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tal</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2234</link>
		<author>Tal</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2234</guid>
		<description>what about www.residentadvisor.net? Don't they fulfill the same dance website goal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about <a href="http://www.residentadvisor.net?" rel="nofollow">www.residentadvisor.net?</a> Don&#8217;t they fulfill the same dance website goal?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2097</link>
		<author>Ronan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2097</guid>
		<description>Do you mean this rejection of consumerism, insularity, and control is an element of the techno scene? 

I guess I agree, if so. One thing which strikes me in a big way is that with so many platforms for discussion around, having heard and expressed an opinion on a record first is actually treated like something to be proud of! Maybe I'm guilty of this myself too, but it seems a little amusing. 

Increasingly I've been thinking that people actually like communication tools like blogger/myspace/internet forums JUST AS MUCH as music itself, hence the way technology seems to be a bigger driving force behind youth culture than music nowadays. I mean...when was the last "new thing" in music...the net seems to have totally replaced it in terms of buzz and innovation...(might be worth a discussion in itself, or an article, tho I tried yesterday, a blog post might be best!)

I guess it's actually true that with so many voices around having heard something first can distinguish one writer from another, but its a little odd, music as news or something! Means there seems to be even less thoughtful dialogue around (though I am not so deluded as to think I could keep a regularly updated blog with long theoretical and general ruminations on music, I'm just not that good a writer)

Do you still work for P'fork Chris?

I can honestly say in my limited experience they are actually very open to the idea of doing dance 12s, however all track reviews at the moment are required to have streams accompanying the tracks...which is limiting enough in a sort of bureaucratic way as you have to go and ask the labels for this everytime you do a review. 

This is why after a couple of reviews in January, it's taken me so long to do 3 or 4 more techno reviews. 

But at no stage has anyone said "hmm this isn't something we want", it's been quite trusting really and really good like that. 

However the more "systems" like "we need a stream for every track" are in existence, the more difficult it is to integrate techno 12s into them. It's not a system that's quite built for them, eg they want full streams when I reckon most people would be pleased with 2 minute samples...(but then would curious non techno people want the whole track...don't know, i doubt it)

Sometimes, especially in the last week, I think I should just set up a dance website...I know the people from the labels and I get the promos already, and there are plenty of good writers out there. It's just...could I make money from it, and if not, wouldn't have the time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean this rejection of consumerism, insularity, and control is an element of the techno scene? </p>
<p>I guess I agree, if so. One thing which strikes me in a big way is that with so many platforms for discussion around, having heard and expressed an opinion on a record first is actually treated like something to be proud of! Maybe I&#8217;m guilty of this myself too, but it seems a little amusing. </p>
<p>Increasingly I&#8217;ve been thinking that people actually like communication tools like blogger/myspace/internet forums JUST AS MUCH as music itself, hence the way technology seems to be a bigger driving force behind youth culture than music nowadays. I mean&#8230;when was the last &#8220;new thing&#8221; in music&#8230;the net seems to have totally replaced it in terms of buzz and innovation&#8230;(might be worth a discussion in itself, or an article, tho I tried yesterday, a blog post might be best!)</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s actually true that with so many voices around having heard something first can distinguish one writer from another, but its a little odd, music as news or something! Means there seems to be even less thoughtful dialogue around (though I am not so deluded as to think I could keep a regularly updated blog with long theoretical and general ruminations on music, I&#8217;m just not that good a writer)</p>
<p>Do you still work for P&#8217;fork Chris?</p>
<p>I can honestly say in my limited experience they are actually very open to the idea of doing dance 12s, however all track reviews at the moment are required to have streams accompanying the tracks&#8230;which is limiting enough in a sort of bureaucratic way as you have to go and ask the labels for this everytime you do a review. </p>
<p>This is why after a couple of reviews in January, it&#8217;s taken me so long to do 3 or 4 more techno reviews. </p>
<p>But at no stage has anyone said &#8220;hmm this isn&#8217;t something we want&#8221;, it&#8217;s been quite trusting really and really good like that. </p>
<p>However the more &#8220;systems&#8221; like &#8220;we need a stream for every track&#8221; are in existence, the more difficult it is to integrate techno 12s into them. It&#8217;s not a system that&#8217;s quite built for them, eg they want full streams when I reckon most people would be pleased with 2 minute samples&#8230;(but then would curious non techno people want the whole track&#8230;don&#8217;t know, i doubt it)</p>
<p>Sometimes, especially in the last week, I think I should just set up a dance website&#8230;I know the people from the labels and I get the promos already, and there are plenty of good writers out there. It&#8217;s just&#8230;could I make money from it, and if not, wouldn&#8217;t have the time!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: CJO</title>
		<link>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2092</link>
		<author>CJO</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ronanfitzgerald.net/houseisafeeling/2007/03/26/64/#comment-2092</guid>
		<description>I don't know though Ronan because Pitchfork were, at first, giving a lot of coverage to 12"s, which was a short-lived glimmer of hope. They often give up on ideas/columns/genres that don't make the numbers, or that exist in channels most of their audience is not going to bother with. 

Pitchfork is a decidedly digital audience, and a band's lucky if their buzz crosses over to the generation above, who have the disposable income to buy CDs and for whom doing so is actually a time savings. 12"s and white labels and all that, you know the whole scene - this particular strain we're talking about - is pacifist and inclusive *if you reach out to it*. I think there's a strong element of insularity, control, and a rejection of consumerism that makes the whole sugar rush novelty culture Pitchfork's aggregating an uncomfortable presence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know though Ronan because Pitchfork were, at first, giving a lot of coverage to 12&#8243;s, which was a short-lived glimmer of hope. They often give up on ideas/columns/genres that don&#8217;t make the numbers, or that exist in channels most of their audience is not going to bother with. </p>
<p>Pitchfork is a decidedly digital audience, and a band&#8217;s lucky if their buzz crosses over to the generation above, who have the disposable income to buy CDs and for whom doing so is actually a time savings. 12&#8243;s and white labels and all that, you know the whole scene - this particular strain we&#8217;re talking about - is pacifist and inclusive *if you reach out to it*. I think there&#8217;s a strong element of insularity, control, and a rejection of consumerism that makes the whole sugar rush novelty culture Pitchfork&#8217;s aggregating an uncomfortable presence.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

