Comments on: A Timely Piece

By: Ronan

Ronan — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:37:10 +0000

it’s called modesty, give it a try sometime!

By: tom/pipecock

tom/pipecock — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 21:33:53 +0000

“So does this mean, for example, that if Suburban Knight told you he was just twiddling knobs randomly when he made ‘Art of stalking’ you’d like it less? Or if Dubfire gave an impassioned interview talking about how ‘Ribcage’ is a cry from the heart about the oppression of Persian Americans under the patriot act you’d like it more?”

people can make up any kind of nonsense, you can hear the truth in the music.

“Can you explain how your background has been so conducive to superior listening though? Everyone wants to know and it’d help them to improve their opinions!

Ideally you should do this in 1000 oblivious self aggrandising words as has been your style thusfar on this post. Feel free to take your time over it, it’s mainly for comic value I’ve been replying, you sure enjoy a soapbox!

Extra marks will be awarded for quasi-religious use of the word “soul”.”

the only comic value is reading you talk about music. that’s why i keep coming back! i like your comment in your new post about “If I knew the names of hardware synths i might hazard a guess”. just apply that to every comment you ever make about music, and you might one day get somewhere.

“i only i knew anything about music, i might hazard a guess that minimal deephouse label X is probably the greatest thing since sliced bread.”

hahahaha.

By: Ronan

Ronan — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:42:37 +0000

“let’s take a negative example, say, you. whatever it is that you have done has certainly been all wrong as your knowedge and understanding of dance music seem to be all fucked up. so that’s one way not to do it that we can check off the list.”

Can you explain how your background has been so conducive to superior listening though? Everyone wants to know and it’d help them to improve their opinions!

Extra marks will be awarded for quasi-religious use of the word “soul”.

By: JacobW

JacobW — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:09:02 +0000

it happens when the record is made. either the people playing and writing the song are feeling it and putting themselves into it, or theyre just playing some notes.

So does this mean, for example, that if Suburban Knight told you he was just twiddling knobs randomly when he made ‘Art of stalking’ you’d like it less? Or if Dubfire gave an impassioned interview talking about how ‘Ribcage’ is a cry from the heart about the oppression of Persian Americans under the patriot act you’d like it more?

By: tom/pipecock

tom/pipecock — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:46:28 +0000

let’s take a negative example, say, you. whatever it is that you have done has certainly been all wrong as your knowedge and understanding of dance music seem to be all fucked up. so that’s one way not to do it that we can check off the list.

By: Ronan

Ronan — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:05:16 +0000

would your background that you mentioned be a good example of what people should have or go through to improve their listening habits or opinions?

By: tom/pipecock

tom/pipecock — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:19:38 +0000

hahaha, i would argue that too, but that is not what i am saying now. what i am saying is that most people who listen to music have no fucking clue what it is they are listening to. music is not solely soundwaves, there is culture and ideas surrounding it that dictates its purpose and use. to listen to music in a cultural vacuum (which is what i would say alot of new house and techno is doing, it is so far from the original purpose of house and techno that it is not funny. this has been the case many times before with varying results: hardcore was not so bad, progressive house was so bad.) is to miss half the point right off the bat.

for example, i have a really easy time understanding urban american music as that is the place and environment in which i have lived my life. i can understand other music that is related to it or has been influenced heavily by it simply because i know reflexively what it is supposed to do. understanding other music would require studying of culture and ideas and whatnot, which i have done in many cases (reggae is a good example of this for me). but i wouldnt be the person to sit down and listen to something i’ve never heard before and insist that it is the greatest thing in the genre when i’ve never heard any of it before and don’t understand anything about the culture from which it came.

and THAT is why so many journalists covering mnml and electrohouse and whatever look like such fools. they dont have enough of a knowledge base to be able to understand why them touting artist X as “the next great thing” sounds ridiculous to people who do have that knowledge base.

By: Ronan

Ronan — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 20:04:32 +0000

just to be totally clear, are you saying you hear music “better” than most other people?

By: tom/pipecock

tom/pipecock — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:12:08 +0000

not at all, actually. people who can’t hear it just haven’t listened to enough music. only people who can’t listen to music critically can make that mistake, though that is a large number of people consisting of all the morons who listen to most of what passes as “pop” music.

By: Ronan

Ronan — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:41:21 +0000

but not everybody will “hear it” the same way you will. hence it’s subject to opinion.

I mean, surely you can see that?